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11 Responses to “Hot Bods”

  1. Barnabas says:

    10% obedience is a bottom line. 100% devotion is a response to gracious, merciful love.
    The 3 in 1 give us 100%, we are truly indebted if we believe we deserve 90%.

  2. Barnabas says:

    Where does the gift of singleness, fit in this analysis?

  3. Mike Metzger says:

    Barnabus: Good question. All believers are to be pure for Christ. All believers are already married to Christ, already betrothed to him. All believers will enjoy consummation – union – with Christ after the wedding banquet (Revelation 19). Some believers are gifted by God to abstain from consummation here and now for the Ultimate Consummation then and there. Either way, all believers should be buffing their bods.

  4. Mark Jones says:

    Mike, thanks for this piece. Bravo! This topic reminds me of what Christopher West wrote in one of my current favorite books, “Fill These Hearts: God, Sex, and the Universal Longing.” I fully agree with the metaphor, though I believe that even most “Christians” have trouble relating to it. Personally, before I got married, I did not know what I was missing and thus, the promise of consummation didn’t mean much to me. Don’t get me wrong, as a single male, I certainly had the desire for sexual gratification, but I had no idea what real consummation and intimacy could be before I got married. My female single friends were often starry eyed about their future wedding and closeness to a husband, but I believe they were equally unaware of what consummation is meant to be. Married friends of mine seem to often live more like roommates, who each gain satisfaction in getting their needs met through the other, which I don’t think fits the intent either. To cut to the chase, I fear that single or married, we all have a very warped view of what real intimacy and consummation is meant to be. Only with Christ will it be fully as it was intended, given our fallenness. West’s book and others speak about it, but do you have suggestions for how to expand the metaphor in conversation to people who may have very warped perspectives on what being the bride of Christ is really meant to be?

  5. Trent McEntyre says:

    Mike, can I quote this in church planting fund development materials? I think that when I fail to remember what you say in this piece that I struggle to be faithful in my part of the fund dev process. I agree with Barna that some of the reasons people don’t give much is that they have not been offered a compelling “why” or a bold venture to invest in.

    Do you think that some of what we do as Christians is self-focused “keeping the sinking ship afloat?”

    Time to workout, we have a wedding coming soon!

    Trent

    Atlanta, GA

  6. Mike Metzger says:

    Trent

    Of course you can. I grieve that so many Christians find this sort of body talk to be bawdy. It’s actually an indicator of how sexuality is now almost entirely associated with porn. Porn is bad, so body talk is bad. This must grieve the Lord.

  7. Barnabas says:

    Yes, with ‘bod’ resonating as individual and community temples. B attitude!

  8. Barnabas says:

    Thought this would be of further http://www.joniandfriends.org/daily-devotional/

  9. Fraser Haug says:

    Perhaps I can suggest yet another very helpful metaphor in which to set tithing. The Bible refers to the Church (the “called out ones” of both the Old and New Testament) as a 1.) special people, 2.) a royal priesthood and 3.) a holy nation. Three main roles in our job description. One way to understand the tithe, therefore, is as a “tax” levied upon the citizens of God’s Kingdom necessary to underwrite the task of advancing the Holy Nation of God, the Kingdom of God, on earth as it is in heaven.
    Unhappily, it appears that the modern, western Church has again fallen into the age-old trap of Gnosticism (a false, unbiblical separation of the natural from the supernatural or “spiritual”) with the consequence that our view of the Kingdom of God is for later, in heaven. Not hear, and now and in terms of earthy things. My generation of believers (the 60’s/ Jesus Freak/ Charismatic Renewal gang) was taught that we just needed “get out of Dodge,” hang-on till Jesus returns and hopefully bring as many converts as possible with us. With such a view (such an eschatology) it is really no wonder that the contemporary Church has a very weak view of the advance of the Kingdom of God on earth. We therefore also have a very hard time justifying giving 10% of our income.
    In the Barna study you mentioned, lack of a compelling vision was actually first on the list of why people don’t tithe. If we could, in our generation, re-capture a vigorous vision for the Kingdom on earth, the mandate of being a Holy Nation on the earth, I suspect that tithing would again become a common practice in the Church.
    Amen, to “Hot Bods” and to the Kingdom of God on earth as it is in heaven.

  10. Barnabas says:

    An all round picture
    http://www.rw360.org/discover-rw/

    Self, other, external authority

  11. Barnabas says:

    Poverties of authority, self, family, community.
    http://www.chalmers.org/when-helping-hurts.

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