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11 Responses to “Languid Day”

  1. Dave Thom says:

    There is a completely different way of interpreting data than how Murray does with his comment “whites by their own testimony became less interested in meaningful work and more interested in secure jobs with short working hours.” It might very well be that whites have felt “unjustly” “let-go-of” and “over-worked” by their employers – compared to the generation that went before them – say, their parents – so that is why they now double-down on wanting security and shorter hours. If they’re working incredibly long hours now, with very little security, as compared to their parents, they now want less hours and more security, what’s so lazy or wrong about that? But not less hours as in “less than 40 or 50” but less as in “less than 50 or 60” hours. I don’t know any whites who don’t work long hours and growing numbers have less security. The concern with honesty? Yes, I get that. And the concern with ruining self-government, I get that. But I don’t get the idea that whites have gone lazy. If anything, that prior generation wanted “a feeling of accomplishment” because they had light hours and job security! They were bored! Today, you can’t be bored when your job hangs by a thread no matter how many hours you put in.

  2. David Naugle says:

    Here’s a thought or two on the solution to the problem:

    David Naugle

  3. David Naugle says:

    Here’s a thought or two on the solution to the problem:

    David Naugle

    It won’t let me post this

  4. David Naugle says:

    Then I see it posted twice. Sorry

  5. John Chaffin says:

    It is interesteing the a clergy housing allowance is considered a form of government assistance. Are other self-employed occupations which claim a portion of their home as a legitimate business expense considered a form of government assistance?

  6. Mike Metzger says:


    Sure. Any tax break or subsidy – be in Medicare, Medicaid, or taking a mortgage interest deduction – is considered government assistance as the feds are picking up part what what would normally be an individual’s financial responsibility to the state.


    You make a good point and might be entirely right. I would however add that you work in Boston and breathe that rarified air of Harvard Square. Take the subway to the south side of the city and observe worker habits there.

  7. Dave Thom says:

    Fellas, good stuff. But I beg to differ once again. I don’t believe a minister’s housing allowance is federal assistance “in the same way” that the feds pick up Medi-X or discounting a mortgage. In fact the minister “double-dips” by getting both the mortgage deduction and not paying tax on the money that pays the mortgage. The reason why/how she/he double-dips is because the minister “contributes to the betterment of society” in two ways: 1.) Being a minister and 2.) Being a homeowner. It is not assistance as if the minister is poor and in need of assistance. Educational institutions are also relieved of tax considerations because education “contributes to the betterment of society”. (That’s my phrase, I’m not sure what the tax code authors officially say.) Yes, the federal government actually recognizes ministers as bettering society, like churches, universities and hospitals. But a teacher or a doctor doesn’t get a housing allowance, only ministers. Happy Labor Day to me and my fellow ministers! Now I wonder, why did we bring up the minister’s housing allowance?

  8. John Chaffin says:

    Hmmm. . . if any tax break is considered government assitance, then is there anyone who is not on government assistance?

    Oh, I guess it was my fault that we brought up minister’s housing allowance. I sometimes get side tracked on minutia. I guess it happened again. I admit the larger issue of this blog was more important. Sorry.

  9. Mike Metzger says:

    No apologies. Dave makes a good point, I might have blurred some categories… and there was a larger point after all.

  10. Joel Thornton says:

    “…only a virtuous people can govern themselves.” Scary thought, considering the prevailing American moral climate.

  11. Tom Nesler says:

    Good post as always. I always thought that Labor Day was a Union holiday, celebrating labor unions. As I grow older, I am less interested in advancement and accomplishment in work and more interested in not being fired or laid off before I retire. Perhaps this is a demographic shift more than a moral decline. When I was young, I was not afraid of downturns in the economy because I figured I had nothing to lose. Now I do…and that worries me.

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